Second Annual Challenge For Children's - MN Pro Paintball May 16th

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Join MN Pro Paintball and the Dead Squad to raise funds for the important work of Children’s Hospital and Clinics of Minnesota at the Second Annual Challenge for Children’s Big Game. 100% of the profits from registration fees will go to charity.
Time:10:00AM Sunday, May 16th
Location:MN Pro Paintball Park 2554 Texas Ave Lakeville, MN 55044

More information and a new site soon to follow.

New date, new thread.

[Bunker Busters]

I thought it was gonna be on the 23rd, why the date change?

[Stretch]

To make it more evenly spaced between hftc and gbg.

[Krutsie]

Since you changed the date you should have made it in late June.I thought the date was set in stone. I wanted to have our sponsors donate stuff for the Raffle but they wont for two charitys in one month. And HFTC is our first responsabilities. It might hurt your efforts geting more money donated. I know we've already talked about this but you stated the 23rd was set in stone. We are trying hard to make it but I'll have to try and adjust our schedule yet again. grr

[HEAD-SHOT-55]

We will still be there!

[Bunker Busters]

We will still be there!
well, you will. I dont know if ill be able to get 2 weekends off in the same month:character0051:

[Stretch]

Since you changed the date you should have made it in late June.I thought the date was set in stone. I wanted to have our sponsors donate stuff for the Raffle but they wont for two charitys in one month. And HFTC is our first responsabilities. It might hurt your efforts geting more money donated. I know we've already talked about this but you stated the 23rd was set in stone. We are trying hard to make it but I'll have to try and adjust our schedule yet again. grr

Sorry man, this is just the way it worked out. I hope you guys are able to make it.

[AKA]

Like I have said to The Members of The PBPBC, it is going to be tough to work around the dates of the Games we so much enjoy and want to be part of this year. But remember that these Games are out there early enough to try to make plans for if you want to play in them. I to only am looking at it from a Calender point of view, and I sweat a little when I think about telling Ma how busy I'll be this year.:eek:
But like I have always done B4 is to just wait for The Game to get close and work like hell to get there and deal with the next one when it's time comes.;) I would'nt be much of a sneaky, dirty, underhanded Painballer if I did'nt find a way In.:D
I am Planning on being there once again my friends at Mn. Pro Paintball and Dead Sqaud. No matter the date, it was a class act Charity Game and am very Happy to be a Player in it. And no Matter what Ma says, I'm going.:p/AKA

[Stretch]

Thanks Tim, your always a stand up guy.

[Krutsie]

We've adjusted our schedule.I'm trying to talk all the guys to invite the wives for this event. I think it would be a good way to smooth over the schedule in May and June. LOL ..are you going to have some kind of bunkars out in the hay field being its not season for Hay bails ?

[Stretch]

The field layout hasn't been finalized quite yet. We're still working out the details.

[Stretch]

We are looking for one or possibly both generals. If interested send me a pm or email me at Travis@deadsquadpaintball.com.

[kyle925]

First strike rounds ok on this scenario? Just curious.

[Stretch]

I'll get back to ya on that one.

[Stretch]

First strike rounds ok on this scenario? Just curious.

Sorry for the delay. Yes they are.

[Krutsie]

cant wait to see the group of guys standing about 150 out,(knowing their out of range) getting pegged off one by one. I have at liest 2 guys going first strike setups. after the video Kyle and I made I might. LOL

[MondoMor]

Note to self: wear cup if Woodland Security is on the other team

[Stretch]

Alright guys, time to announce the generals. Ben "Chunk" from Wildbunch will be defending his win. The other will be Joel "Krutsie" from Woodland Security. Let the recruiting begin!

[Dark Storm]

Congratz Krutsie and Chuck! I think this will turn to be an interesting game.

[WreckingCrew]

This is gonna be a great game for a great cause

[Krutsie]

I'm honored to resume role as General.This should be just as exiting as last years game. I can announce that our last years fearless leader(AKA)and his the Pelicans and Mn Mayhem have already joined forces with me to help bring Chunk down from his rein. It wasn't my intent to go against one of my most respected teams(Wild Bunch) on my Debue as General. But I stand,with in plan in action.
Mn Pro Paintball. I promise that your woods will be secure. this picture here is one I'll keep in my photo album forever
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg296/woodlandsecurity/C4C_06AKA_Krutsie__Gang.jpg
(left to right)Krutsie,Zugwang,AKA(General),RoyalFork,and MondoMor. this was taken last year.

[Chunk]

Happy to be back supporting the Challenge for the Children game. Should be a great game, looking forward to squaring off with Krutsie. If any of you are looking to play with Wild Bunch this game send me a PM.

[AKA]

Sure am glad to hear we are all set for this Game once again. I was happy to hear that Krutsie, for someone who was'nt sure he would even make the Game has decided not only to show but to General a side.:) I now, will be able to see if a younger, eager to win Player can harness his nerves to General a side of whoever, into a Fighting Force of diehards.;) I now will be able to join the others in the field of Dreams and mis-fortunes.recon:) My only hope is that The PBPBC and I can do as Great of a Job in The Field as Woodland Security and Krutsie had done for Me. Thankyou for taking Command as a General in the C4C 2nd Annual Charity Game, Krutsie.:)

Good for you too Chunk! I am glad to here you will not only be able to return to defend your Win, but will be able to field your fellow Mates in This Charity Game.;) I do have to hand it to you for your Solo Representation last year, did not hinder you one bit. You were able to utilize your side and keep them fighting hard throughout the day with no Teammate help in the Field.;) I will be looking forward to greeting you before The Game and then depart to battle you once again.:character0095:/AKA

[kyle925]

Where's the sign up sheet for the WB team? Oooops ... wrong team. Of course i'll play for ya Krutzie! Can't wait to use my T9/FS on the open field. I'll make sure i'll document this in video of how many hits I can get w/ the First strike. If all fails, my trusty SP1 will take over.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/joodmeister/TEAMTACHYONKYLESTERLOGO.jpg

[Krutsie]

<<<<< LOOK LEFT")I cant wait till one of my good friends spells my name right. right Kyel952.LOL
Anyway.. It will be an honor to battle against you Chunk and your group of thugs. LOL .Kinda like going against your role models the first time your ever General. Remember, its always fun to go out and have some good clean fun causing Havok with and towards friends at games like this. Lets not forget,"Its for the Children" If interested in Donating to the Childrens Hospital's and Clinics of Minnesota. follow this link. http://www.challengeforchildrens.com/register.php
See you guys on the field.

[kyle925]

Ha! Ha! Ha! Better than Krustie though.

[WreckingCrew]

<<<<< LOOK LEFT")I cant wait till one of my good friends spells my name right. right Kyel952.LOL
Anyway.. It will be an honor to battle against you Chunk and your group of thugs. LOL .Kinda like going against your role models the first time your ever General. Remember, its always fun to go out and have some good clean fun causing Havok with and towards friends at games like this. Lets not forget,"Its for the Children" If interested in Donating to the Childrens Hospital's and Clinics of Minnesota. follow this link. http://www.challengeforchildrens.com/register.php
See you guys on the field.

lol when did we get the Thug tag?????

[Krutsie]

You notice the LOL, followed by the statement that you guys have always been my role models. My bad. I'll change my terminology next time. LOL .You know I love ya!

[MildMunchBrando]

lol when did we get the Thug tag?????

From me... Lets face it... You guys are a bunch of devil:)vil shooting thugs and you know it!

Come on its not that bad... better to be that then the staged photographershs:)hs:)

[Stretch]

I'm pretty sure you can thank Brando for the thug tag.:D

[MildMunchBrando]

I'm pretty sure you can thank Brando for the thug tag.:D

Word ;););)

[Stretch]

Darn, you were just a hair faster with your response.

[WreckingCrew]

were only thuggish twords you brando with your pink gun !

[The Alchemist]

WC...it could be worse we could be called Grey Beards because of the increasing amount of grey hair we are sporting.

[Sarge]

Ha ha the grey beard bunch, that sounds good.
I didn't make this game last year due to lack of cash but I'm going to try this year, it looked like a lot of fun. :)
Hmmm now which side should I go with?

[WreckingCrew]

WC...it could be worse we could be called Grey Beards because of the increasing amount of grey hair we are sporting.

But were old and crafty!!!

[Krutsie]

I'm really getting exited for this game. I predict its going to be double attendance from last year.

[MildMunchBrando]

I'm really getting exited for this game. I predict its going to be double attendance from last year.

800 wont fit in that parking lot lol

[WreckingCrew]

800 wont fit in that parking lot lol

I thought the attendance for last year was around 200+??

[MildMunchBrando]

I thought the attendance for last year was around 200+??

Meh my math isn't up to par with my COD skills.... (I thought there was 400 at the last one)

Ken you shut it or I will buy you your just for men in brown
Ya old fart

[WreckingCrew]

Meh my math isn't up to par with my COD skills.... (I thought there was 400 at the last one)

Ken you shut it or I will buy you your just for men in brown
Ya old fart

Remember Ole painless is waiting
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z319/WreckingCrew1/100_0036-1.jpg

[Krutsie]

Nice double trouble. you could maybe strap it to your Walker. LOL , sorry, couldn't resist. ..... you guys should call Just for men. they might sponsor you.

[WreckingCrew]

Nice double trouble. you could maybe strap it to your Walker. LOL , sorry, couldn't resist. ..... you guys should call Just for men. they might sponsor you.

and another name for the list :P

[Krutsie]

man thats quik, I was editing my last responce

[MildMunchBrando]

If you point that at me...... We are no longer friends

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Back story


The year is now 2040, ten years have past since the first major power struggle that left thousands dead and wounded. Since then the Covenant has rained terror and oppression on the people of earth to further its power.

After suffering heavy casualties to the point of being all but destroyed. The few that managed to survive with the Intel that they collected have started to regroup.The Resistance is rapidly growing stronger. Filling their ranks with militant citizens that have had enough and are ready to fight back.

The Resistance has assembled a new weapon and plan to use it to stop the Covenant once and for all. Currently all that is known by the Covenant about this new weapon is that it contains some form of toxins, how it will be deployed and how much destruction it can unleash is completely unknown. Will this new weapon be enough, or will the Covenant continue to hold power over the land?

The Resistance has recently allayed it self with a group of soldiers, the New World Militia. That have the same interests as they do, to crush the oppressive Covenant Government and bring order to the world.

The Covenant is now deeply seated in control , they have built a vast network of small outposts all across the region. They are now sending out death squads to exterminate all of the remaining Resistance to secure their power. They too have a plan, Covenant scientists have been working on a teleportation device that can send anyone, anywhere on the planet. Unfortunately for them they are still missing one very important piece of the puzzle. A very rare isotope similar to plutonium. If obtained this weapon will give the Covenant the power to bring the Resistance to their knees.

Which side will win the war to destroy their enemy? Who will rule the earth? Will the evil Covenant prevail? Or will the resistance finally win the war to stop the tyranny and oppression and restore peace and balance? It's up to you to decide the fate of the world. Come to the second annual C4C and take a stand for your side.

[Bunker Busters]

Ooooooooo......sounds like there might be some fun props this year :D

[Stretch]

I think your correct.

[Krutsie]

We wont be talking to each other in the bushes this year Andy. unless you choose to side with Me and the Resistance. Considering last year,I highly doubt you will. LOL ...Woodland Security will be 20 strong this year, we had two active members besides me last year.


Any team or Rogue Player that wants to join up with the Resistance at this Awesome Event please pm me.

[gramps99]

But were old and crafty!!!


I think a friend of mine from years ago put it best, WC. He said and I quote, "Old age and treachery shall overcome youth and enthusiasm."

[Sencor]

C4c is sounding a little like the Terminator! Well, now i know what i'm watching!:)

[Krutsie]

Are you coming to C4C Sencor?

[HEAD-SHOT-55]

Woodland Security will be 20 strong this year

Rosters mean nothing, How many players do you have?

[Krutsie]

Rosters mean nothing, How many players do you have?
With Sponsors Rosters are everything. I have to update it every year. but if you read my post I said WS will be 20 strong(refering to the Childrens Game).

As far as the team.
If you Must know.. we have more like 25 but we are offering all styles of play this year. I have about 25 right now and we have two squads. Core squad based in Rochester(ran by Cobly Alberts)sized will be 4-8 guys and the X squad from Faribault,mn(ran by Jon Moriarity).Sized around 4-6 guys. I have 10 or so guys that just want to go to big events and not train hard. we are looking into adding on my second cousins group from Iowa as a Squad down there.6-8 guys. also thinking about a squad from Minneapolis by next year.
I'm guessing a event average of 15. but The Hunt and Childrens games are a highly recomended event so the numbers should be up there towards 20.
We lost a few Players last year and I know Oracle has joined you guys which is cool. He informed me of his intentions and I told him you were a great group of guys and there were no hard feeling.
How Many guys you Have this year?

[HEAD-SHOT-55]

enough to do some damage in any game!

With Sponsors Rosters are everything. I have to update it every year. but if you read my post I said WS will be 20 strong(refering to the Childrens Game).

As far as the team.
If you Must know.. we have more like 25 but we are offering all styles of play this year. I have about 25 right now and we have two squads. Core squad based in Rochester(ran by Cobly Alberts)sized will be 4-8 guys and the X squad from Faribault,mn(ran by Jon Moriarity).Sized around 4-6 guys. I have 10 or so guys that just want to go to big events and not train hard. we are looking into adding on my second cousins group from Iowa as a Squad down there.6-8 guys. also thinking about a squad from Minneapolis by next year.
I'm guessing a event average of 15. but The Hunt and Childrens games are a highly recomended event so the numbers should be up there towards 20.
We lost a few Players last year and I know Oracle has joined you guys which is cool. He informed me of his intentions and I told him you were a great group of guys and there were no hard feeling.
How Many guys you Have this year?

[Krutsie]

Its actually been pretty wierd. 3 or 4 of my core member left at the end of last year and I thought it was going to hurt the team. Bringing on Colby Alberts as core Captain, Joe Bolton, Dan Bolton, Tim Wick, Kevin Wilds, and appointing Jon Moriarity as Captain of his group from Faribault. We're actually a new squad with alot of new faces. we're building structure for the squads future.
Last year at the childrens game we desided to come one week before its date. and everyone eather worked or was busy. It was kind of funny showing up with 4 guys and my middle daughter. I think this year will be a blast. Accepting General for the resistance was a hard desision because it will be my first , but I feel confident with, MN Mayhem,Mn Militia, and the Pelicans in my corner. CHunk and the Wild bunch arent just going to hand over a win to me. Its going to be an interesting fight.
Think how chunk felt last year. He didn't have any Wild bunch guys there. You guys helped him alot. I thought you guys deserved MVT.

[Bunker Busters]

thanks Krutsie. we will have to turn it up a few notches this year if we have to compete with WB, but we have had some great guys join up this year so we will just have to see

[Krutsie]

You guys will do fine.
There was a guy I talked to from Pine Island who wants to play. He's seemed more your style. I didn't turn him away but ,after listening to him ,you guys seemed right down his alley. I still have his number. He used to play with a group of guys from Spring valley(remember the paintball alley guys?)He was one of them. he said he'd played with ya once. remember that costantine guy from the cities? I still have his number.
As far as the Childrens game . Be fast and agressive and you'll do fine against the WB. Join the Resistance. lets cause some Havok.you know it will be fun. you dont always have to go on the opposing side ya know. But I understand why you do.

[WreckingCrew]

You guys will do fine.
There was a guy I talked to from Pine Island who wants to play. He's seemed more your style. I didn't turn him away but ,after listening to him ,you guys seemed right down his alley. I still have his number. He used to play with a group of guys from Spring valley(remember the paintball alley guys?)He was one of them. he said he'd played with ya once. remember that costantine guy from the cities? I still have his number.
As far as the Childrens game . Be fast and agressive and you'll do fine against the WB. Join the Resistance. lets cause some Havok.you know it will be fun. you dont always have to go on the opposing side ya know. But I understand why you do.

Or you can stay on our side and play with the WildBunch We would be thrilled to have BB to fight alongside us. I'm also bringing ole painless to the field too
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z319/WreckingCrew1/100_0036-1.jpg

[Bunker Busters]

dont worry, we told chunk a while back that we would be honored to play for him again!

[Krutsie]

dont worry, we told chunk a while back that we would be honored to play for him again!

I figured..Had to ask. LOL

[WreckingCrew]

dont worry, we told chunk a while back that we would be honored to play for him again!

Excellent!!! time to bring the pain!

[Krutsie]

I might have a few myself... quotation on "FEW". I'm not scared of a double trouble I got lit up by quadzilla from about 40 ft away at HFTC 2008, even tho I had just eliminated him with my launcher. the 15 seconds it took the ref to tap the tank I got lit up like a Christmas Tree. its kinda like catching a snake. you dont grab its neck facing him.you sneak around and and get him from the sides. No worries. but then again I'm in a netted tent. LOL

[wicker77]

Or you can stay on our side and play with the WildBunch We would be thrilled to have BB to fight alongside us. I'm also bringing ole painless to the field too
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z319/WreckingCrew1/100_0036-1.jpg

Eh, just pick up a few FS rounds, you can shoot all the paint you want, but it won't be going 200 feet and breaking, FS rounds will, and it'll only take one shot :D

[Bunker Busters]

Eh, just pick up a few FS rounds, you can shoot all the paint you want, but it won't be going 200 feet and breaking, FS rounds will, and it'll only take one shot :D
however MN Pro is FPO so they might not even allow FS to be used.

[wicker77]

however MN Pro is FPO so they might not even allow FS to be used.

True, however earlier Stretch had said FS rounds will be allowed... I checked first so I wouldn't have to eat my own words tongue:)

[Stretch]

Yes sir, as I stated earlier FS rounds will be permitted.

[Krutsie]

Wicker77 and Jude(kyle926) both have first strike setups. cool!! might have to send them where I hear that double trouble. Might get pretty tired lugging that big beast back and forth.

[wicker77]

Wicker77 and Jude(kyle926) both have first strike setups. cool!! might have to send them where I hear that double trouble. Might get pretty tired lugging that big beast back and forth.

Ummmmmmmmm well, yeah, not really, haha, but ill probably pick up a tube and use the while single shot barrel loading technique

[WreckingCrew]

Wicker77 and Jude(kyle926) both have first strike setups. cool!! might have to send them where I hear that double trouble. Might get pretty tired lugging that big beast back and forth.

never get tired of it

[Krutsie]

Ummmmmmmmm well, yeah, not really, haha, but ill probably pick up a tube and use the while single shot barrel loading technique
Kinda curious how far my M82A1 will shoot one of those fs rounds.
shouldn't be long for Tippmann to come up with a single laod setup for a stock 98 0r a5.

[Bunker Busters]

Kinda curious how far my M82A1 will shoot one of those fs rounds.
shouldn't be long for Tippmann to come up with a single laod setup for a stock 98 0r a5.

might be able to use them with the 98 since the feedneck already comes off with the push of the front sight....????......just an idea.

[Krutsie]

true. Hmm. never thought of that.

[spock]

BB it'll be fun to play with you guys, the other side is going to feel this.

[Krutsie]

I have a question... Is there a field rate of fire cap? and if there is how is it enforced? does mn Pro Paintball have any equipment to check. Just cureous..

[Stretch]

Sorry Krutsie, I somehow let your post slip past me. The ROF cap for the game is going to be 12BPS and yes we have the equipment to check. We will be doing random checks though out the day. We will also be using our finely tuned ears and will check anyone we believe to be shooting at an excessive rate of fire.

Now for a little peek at what the game will be like.

It will be a multi stage attack and defend format. All the bottlenecks from last year should be eliminated. The dreaded field paint from last years event has also been eliminated and replaced with RPS Premium. There will also be side missions and tons of perks. That's all I'm saying for now. I think everyone is going to be very pleased with this years event.

[Krutsie]

It has come to my attention that Foster and farmland will be attending and fighting for the resistance. They should have 3 double troubles. should be fun.

[Foster]

12bps may end that double thing real quick...:character0051:
Is that 12bps per barrel?

IMO BPS is just another tool in the box anyhow. baby:)

I signed up from the link posted in this thread, then I noticed the date on the site was 2009... Who do I talk to?

[Stretch]

To answer you questions. It will be 12bps per barrel. As far as preregistering on last years site, you will be ok. The prices are going to be the same as last year and your registration will be valid for this years event. The site should be updated today so everyone else please wait to register until the site is updated. One more thing, mock knives will NOT be allowed. I just threw that in there because I know you Damage guys like to use them.

[Ravenwood]

Is this a semi auto or full auto game? I have a full auto x7 will I be aloud to use it on semi if this game is semi only?

[Foster]

Mock?

Ouch ;)

Damage Doubles & R.E. Specials fire a little different than the typical crank'r.
Lets just say that they typically dont fall under the current "one shot per pull untill pull #__" that many fields require.

ATS guns fall along the same sequence, all or nothing.

From the looks of the Marker rules, I dont see how any RT's or ATS can be usea anyhow:

Markers/Paintball: Any .68 caliber paintball marker may be used. Any marker that can be adjusted on the field, without tools, is required to have a locking device to prevent this from being possible. All electronic markers are limited to 285fps Semi auto-only!, pump markers may chrono up to 300fps. No modes (psp, ramping, multi-shot) are allowed. Excessive rate of fire will result in a warning, then a referee will mark your wrist band. Barrel bags (barrel condoms) are required, players caught with no barrel bag on their barrel in an off-field area other than the chrono area, may be ejected from the event with no refund.



Well, it looks like I paid the "at the door" 2009 price. As long as any extra green finds its way to the cause I am fine with that.

Childrens Hospital saved my sons life in 2004.
BPS, Knives, Missions, Updated site... all small beans.
Lets put some money in the pot people, Local money to a local cause!!

[Stretch]

It will be semi ONLY. Trigger bounce will also not be allowed, so please set your triggers correctly. Your X7 is absolutely allowed, just keep it in semi and you won't have any issues. Also before anyone asks, RT's are allowed but are subject to the same ROF cap as everyone else.

[Stretch]

Foster, I apologize for referring to your knives as "mock". I certainly didn't intend to offend you or anyone else. Apparently I don't know the proper term so you will have to fill me in.

I also know very little about Damage's doubles or ATS guns. So I don't understand what would disqualify them. If you could PM me some info about them also I would appreciate it. The rules you quoted are from last year and may be subject to change for this year. Perhaps we can accommodate you. We're certainly not making rules to try to alienate any players.

As far as being charged the wrong price, I will PM you contact info to get a hold of the field owner. He will get you all squared away.

[Ravenwood]

That's great news thanks for getting back to me so fast. See you all there will be registering in the next few days

[Foster]

No need to apologize at all, it was tongue in cheek.

I will shoot you some info on the guns, I honestly believe that the sound alone brings something extra to the game.

Weilding such awesome-ness requires great responsibility, an honor I take to heart.

I will shut up now and wait for the rules tongue:)

[Krutsie]

I remember hearing them at the Battle of Serinty Valley and that was the first time in Paintball I thought "RUN".

[Shadow959]

PointBlank will be attending this event.

[JJohnson]

I remember hearing them at the Battle of Serinty Valley and that was the first time in Paintball I thought "RUN".

Yeah those things are LOUD. At least you could tell where the Reavers were that way :)

[Ravenwood]

I love the sound of a double trouble.....it reminds me were NOT to go on the field lmao

[Stretch]

Alright guys, there is a basic page up now. You will have to call the store to preregister. http://www.challengeforchildrens.com/

[Stretch]

A complete site and online registration will be up by the end of next week.

[Krutsie]

I love the sound of a double trouble.....it reminds me were NOT to go on the field lmao

When we walked up behind the reaver base and I saw Them shooting it empty with a loud speaker. sitting around, Its more of an intimidation.hmmm?

[slick assasin]

This game is sounding better and better every day!
I wish I was going to be there for this one. I'd love to tear things up with the pump again.

[Stretch]

Texas isn't that far, you can drive up for the weekend.:D

[slick assasin]

Texas isn't that far, you can drive up for the weekend.:D

LOL, it's about a 19hr drive each way.
If I hadn't just started the new job I would probably ask for a 4 day weekend and just fly up but I don't think they would appreciate that this soon.

[Stretch]

Prices

Registration
Preregistration $25
Day Of Event $35

Paint
Heat Field Paint $40/Case
RPS Premium Field Paint $45/Case

[Krutsie]

Well Everybody, Chunk and I get the privilage to General a first in its kind. This event is going to be totally diferent than alot of games we are used to. I'm exited. the game rules and layout will be released shortly I'm sure.

[Stretch]

I don't know if it's a first of it's kind but it certainly is going to be different from any game I've ever played.

[Stretch]

Alright guys, the complete site and online registration are finally up and running http://www.challengeforchildrens.com/index.php

The rules and the game format are also finished, here they are.


Game Specific Rules for 2010 Tournament

This is a 3 stage game, please read the Stages section!

The game will be broken down in two halves, the first half one team will be attackers and the other the defenders. This will switch after lunch.

The objective for the attackers is to capture as many bases, including destroying the Plant (castle), in the fastest possible time. If you destroy the Plant (castle) you will need to hold it till the end of that stage. You will only score points while attacking. (With the exception of eliminating the opposing team general while defending.) Defenders must prevent the attackers from advancing at all costs!
Stages

There will be three stages to the battle, the third being assault the Plant (castle). In all three stages there will be three bases for the attackers to capture and use as reinsertion points (after being captured). There will also be a time limit of 50 minutes per stage, the next stage will open up after that time. The next stage will not open until either the time limit has elapsed (50 minutes) or the attackers have captured all three bases in the current stage. Once the next stage opens all missions and perks for that stage will expire.

Once the attackers capture a base, it cannot be taken back (with the exception of the Castle at the very end). Defenders should continue to defend other uncapped bases if/when a base falls.

After a stage has been opened the bases in the previous stage cannot be captured. All uncaptured bases in that stage can NOT be used as a reinsertion area.
Attackers

They will start out at the Attacker HQ, once signaled to start they will attempt to capture each base in Stage 1. After capturing a base (any base in Stage 1) anyone on the attacking team may reinsert at that base. Touch up and wipe off your hits.

Once a base has been captured by the attackers it cannot be changed back. It is now a reinsertion point for the attackers.

Once the mortars (firework) has sounded this will indicate the next stage has opened (either because all bases have been captured or the time limit has expired). If attackers have not captured all bases in the stage, they can advance into the next stage. All bases do not need to be captured but points will be awarded for capturing them while that stage is in play. The game will not stop.

After the next stage has been opened, the bases that were not captured will not be able to be used for reinsertion and can no longer be captured.

The Tank will be on the attackers side and can only be taken out with a LAW rocket or satchel charge. Attackers must command the tank where to move. Must use roads at all times.
Defenders

They will be trying to hold off the attacking team from capturing any bases in the first stage, then the second, then the third with the Castle. After the attacking team has captured all the bases in the current stage or time has expired they will fall back and defend the next stage's bases.

Defenders will be able to reinsert at the main insertion point (Defender HQ) behind the Plant (castle) or at any base that is in a stage not in play yet.This means that if Stage 1 is currently in play, Defenders can reinsert from any base in Stage 2 or 3. After the 3rd stage is open the defenders will reinsert only at their HQ.

Defenders will get a head start in this game in order to get their defensive positions set up. This will be about 2-5 minute head start from their main insertion point (Defender HQ).

Please do not spawn camp the reinsertion areas after a base has been captured. It can not be retaken.
Game Scoring

Points will be awarded as follows:

1st stage:
Bases are 100 points ea.
2nd stage:
Bases are 200 points ea.
3rd stage:
Bases are 300 points ea.
Plant(castle):
500 points

To score the points for the Plant your must be the team holding it at the end of the Stage 3 time limit. The Plant is the final base and is the only base that can be recaptured.

General: The General will be offered to go on missions if they so choose. 100 pts per stage for shooting general, he must reinsert at HQ only!!

Special Missions: One per stage. Will score points for team and/or award perks. Will be delivered to the General. Once the next stage has opened all missions in the current stage are void.

Tiebreaker: If game is a tie at end the winner will be the team that the captures the Plant in the fastest time.
Role Players/Objects/Perks

Perks will be awarded per stage. They need to be used within the stage they are earned or they will be lost! They cannot be carried over into the next stage. They cannot be combined(Terminator cannot carry a riot shield).Terminators do not go in tank.

Perks will given out on the 10,20,30,min into each stage and can be used at the generals discretion. Also perks can be found.
Attackers

Terminators: They will have a front-and-center as well as a rear facing target that must be hit to be eliminated(either one). A Grenade, Saboteur, LAW, or Gas Canister will also kill a Terminator. Only two will be in play at any time. Terminators cannot capture bases.

Tank: This will be used by the attackers. Must stay on roads or predefined areas at all times and cannot enter or capture bases. Tank will be disabled if hit with LAW, until attacking team gets perk again.

Riot Shields: They may be used as a portable barricade. Please do not leave your riot shield unattended. If you are eliminated while using riot shield return it to your HQ.

Teleportation: Team of 5-10(depending on how many total players in the game) can be dropped anywhere on an unlocked Stage. These players cannot capture a base themselves, but they can eliminate the defenders while other players fill in to capture the base. These players will be identified by white arm bands.
Defenders

Flag Bearer: Mobile reinsertion point and medic. They can go anywhere in the boundaries of the battle field within an Active stage and must plant themselves, and not move after they have established a spot(15feet from base). Players can touch the player carrying the flag or the flag itself and reinsert themselves (wipe hits). If the Flag Bearer (not the flag or pole) is hit by a paintball or grenade they must return the flag to the Defender HQ and reinsert (or give the flag to someone else at HQ). The Flag must be held up in the air the whole time. If dropped or player takes hand off flag it is destroyed. Players may not hold flag pole, they must remain 15 feet away before and after being tagged.

Saboteur: Single use. An undercover (spy) player who can eliminate every player within a 30 foot radius,including terminators,and Tank. They will have arm tape of either Attacker or Defender color (as decided by the General) and be assigned a referee which will trail them from a distance. When signaled the referee will eliminate every player within the blast radius. If a saboteur gets hit out before he detonates he cannot use the blast. Cannot explode in HQ.

LAW Rocket: Now includes 4 rockets! Eliminates players withing a 10 foot radius of a natural defilade or man made objects being hit. Eliminates a Terminator if the rocket lands within 10 feet. Eliminates a Tank by striking directly. A referee which must be present when firing. Please bring your own, you will be allowed to use them when you use this perk. They need to have a piece of tape on them to be valid. Remember once next stage has opened your law rockets will have to be renewed at the HQ.

Toxic Gas Canister/satchel charge: Single use. This will be a throwable projectile that will explode on impact and poison the surrounding area. It can be thrown and will blast a 20 foot radius. Eliminates people and Terminators. Also if placed on or hits tank will disable it.

Rules: Any rule questions during game play will be left up to the Game Masters on the field. The generals will know who they are.



Challenge for Children General Gameplay Rules

Before you are allowed to participate you will be required to sign a waiver stating that you know,and understand, the rules contained herein. It is important for reasons of your own safety and enjoyment, as well as that of your fellow players, that you know these rules and abide by them.

Boundaries: They will be marked by rope or tape. All play will be limited to the current active zone ONLY. No shooting will be permitted into or out of the current zone from any other zone or out of bounds (i.e. NO shooting across tape lines).All players must remain in the current zone during gameplay. If a player leaves the active zone for any reason, that player is eliminated and must reinsert at their team's reinsertion point.

Armband Tape: This will be provided at the beginning of the game at your respective headquarters. This will help to determine the enemy.

Goggles/Masks: Goggles must meet ASTM and insurance requirements, must be unaltered, must provide full face, eye, and ear protection, and must have suitable, undamaged lenses in them. Players caught lifting their goggles, may be ejected with no refund. Please use common sense here, we are only looking out for our fellow paintballers.

Markers/Paintball: Any .68 caliber paintball marker may be used. Any marker that can be adjusted on the field, without tools, is required to have a locking device to prevent this from being possible. All electronic markers are limited to 285fps Semi auto-only! Pump markers and Pistols may chrono up to 300fps. No modes (full auto, ramping, trigger bounce, multi-shot) are allowed. Excessive rate of fire over 12 BPS will result in a warning or removal from game, then a referee will mark your wrist band. Barrel bags (barrel condoms) are required, players caught with no barrel bag on their barrel in an off-field area other than the chrono area, may be ejected from the event with no refund.

Players Wristbands: When you check-in you will receive a wrist band. DO NOT LOSE THIS!! It will not be replaced for any reason as this is your receipt that you have paid! This will insure you are still a live player participating in the game. Referees will be marking them for violations. If you have 2 X's on your wristband and you get another you will be asked to leave. The violations will include marker safety, physical contact, threatening behavior, and cursing will not be tolerated. Violations will result in either a referee marking your wristband or ejection from the event with no refund (the referee will make this final judgment).

Prohibited equipment: No tools or any knives (real or simulated) may be carried on the field. No personal fill stations allowed on the premises. No unbreakable-trip wires - auto releasing is OK. No pyrotechnic devices. No unapproved smoke (hot) devices. No laser sights/pointers. Any items found in violation will be confiscated and may, or may not, be returned after the event.

Radios: Radios are allowed and encouraged. Please do not use the referee's channels 1, 2 or 3. If you are dead you may NOT use your radio until you have reached your reinsertion point or are healed by a medic. Resistance will use odd channels and Covenant will use even.

Check in with your General for radio specifics. Jamming will not be allowed.

Headquarters/Main Base: This will be the main re-insertion point for each team.

A large "live" map of the field will be on display and show who controls each base during the game. Each team's General will be located at the HQ and players should check in with their General for instructions.
Rules while game is being played

Barrel-tagging: You may barrel-tag players and eliminate them without shooting. The barrel must be attached to your marker, and you must immediately say, "Barrel tag!" when you touch them with it. A barrel tag is a tap, NOT a stabbing motion. Barrel-tagged players are immediately eliminated and are to walk away quietly. Failure to do so will result in a referee punch on your ID card. Barrel tagged players cannot be healed by medics.

Eliminations: If you are marked by a direct hit from a paintball and it breaks on you, you are eliminated. Marker/hopper hits count!

* Immediately yell "HIT" raise your gun in the air and keep it raised until healed or reinserted.
* Once you have announced that you are hit, you are OUT, even if you discover the ball did not break after the fact.
* If in doubt please yell "paint check" and the nearest ref can check you.
* If you are wearing a "ghille suit" all hits count on areas covered by this material, regardless of breaks.
* When eliminated, you immediately return to your HQ for reinsertion.

Game Start/End: All players should be at your base, report in to your General and be ready to go when the game begins! Game starts & stops will be signaled by air-horns, whistles. Between stages their will be a mortar noise(firework kind of).

Grenades/Mines: Paint grenades & mines may be used. One speck is enough for an elimination.

Side Missions: Side missions will be given to each General every stage. A successful mission completed in the allotted time will earn your team mystery points and or Perks.

Referees: Referees will be wearing T-shirts for event staff or Black and White . Do not argue with a referee under any circumstance. If you disagree with a call ask them for their first name and see the head referee at the scoring table in your headquarters.

Reinsertions:

* Attackers: may reinsert at any base they control. Reinsertion - Touch your HQ structure, clean off your hit and return to game.
* Defenders: will need to reinsert at reinsertion bases in non active stage or flag bearer.

Surrenders: We request, whenever possible, that you ask players within 20 feet to surrender. This is not a hard and fast rule, but a general consideration. We also recommend that players who are given this option accept it. Congratulate them on bunkering you and report to your base. Surrenders cannot be healed by medics.

[wicker77]

All singed up, sounds like a very interesting game, should be fun

[Ravenwood]

I am also all signed up and ready for this game. Now what side to play .....;)

[Krutsie]

You funny!!!!

[Ravenwood]

I thought that would grab your attention lmao laughing:)

[Krutsie]

Two weeks away guys. I really love playing for Charity. Lets do this for the children.

[Ravenwood]

hey Krutsie I maybe brining a guy I work with can I borrow a spare remote line?

[MildMunchBrando]

I'm going to register when I get paid so this Friday. I'm very excite!!!:cool:

[Stretch]

Here is a question that was answered on another forum that I thought would be a good one to move over here.

Q: Does a law have to hit a solid object like a fort or bunker or will they also have splash damage if the just hit the ground?

A:They will have to hit a solid object, whether it be man made or natural. The only players you will be able to take out by shooting a rocket near them are terminators.

[NickVanDick]

Just registered today.. Ready to rock! Im gunna have to side with Mild Bunch on this one though :p

[Chunk]

Sweet, I have you now "ammo can" Krutsie.

[Krutsie]

yea , It sure did kick Arse. LOL

As far as C4C. I'd just love to see more people come. I do know there is another game going the same day ,Hidden Valley, hopefully we can get more peeps interested in playing for charity.

[Foster]

Building slow is the best way to do it, shoot the 1st hunt had what...60-70 players? Nice slow growth gives producers time to grow the game to the expectations of the players.

Dont get me wrong, Id love to see C4C reach its potential draw. But not at the expense of the game.

Getting excited!

[Krutsie]

I was told alot of new young player come to this event so we need to make it fun for them. I feel an mentor program would be cool.(just an Idea) give 3 or 4 walk on kidoes per team to give them a fealing of importance. actually have the captains and team members give them some responsabilities.
This idea came to me at the end of the HFTC final battle when I was going to rush down the hill to get in range to shoot a guy just standing there. I heard a small voice behind me. "I'm in lets go" I looked behind me and a 10 yr old boy with a rental was right on my 6 ready, I said" you better stay back kid" but what if I would have told him to get on my 6 and run while giving him shelter and cover fire.. He would have been on top of the world. We have to remember these young kids look up to us serious players
remember, they are the future of our sport. Just an idea.

[MildMunchBrando]

Registering meow!!!

[Red]

Registering meow!!!

I just registed also "meow"

I don't know if you were going for the Super Trooper reference, but thats what I'm going with

"I need a buger.....its for a cop"

[MildMunchBrando]

I just registed also "meow"

I don't know if you were going for the Super Trooper reference, but thats what I'm going with

"I need a buger.....its for a cop"

Alright Meow hand over your license and registration... Your registration..... Hurry up meow...

[AutomagSniper]

Sorry Krutsie, I somehow let your post slip past me. The ROF cap for the game is going to be 12BPS and yes we have the equipment to check. We will be doing random checks though out the day. We will also be using our finely tuned ears and will check anyone we believe to be shooting at an excessive rate of fire.

Now for a little peek at what the game will be like.

It will be a multi stage attack and defend format. All the bottlenecks from last year should be eliminated. The dreaded field paint from last years event has also been eliminated and replaced with RPS Premium. There will also be side missions and tons of perks. That's all I'm saying for now. I think everyone is going to be very pleased with this years event.

Mock?

Ouch ;)

Damage Doubles & R.E. Specials fire a little different than the typical crank'r.
Lets just say that they typically dont fall under the current "one shot per pull untill pull #__" that many fields require.

ATS guns fall along the same sequence, all or nothing.

From the looks of the Marker rules, I dont see how any RT's or ATS can be usea anyhow:

Markers/Paintball: Any .68 caliber paintball marker may be used. Any marker that can be adjusted on the field, without tools, is required to have a locking device to prevent this from being possible. All electronic markers are limited to 285fps Semi auto-only!, pump markers may chrono up to 300fps. No modes (psp, ramping, multi-shot) are allowed. Excessive rate of fire will result in a warning, then a referee will mark your wrist band. Barrel bags (barrel condoms) are required, players caught with no barrel bag on their barrel in an off-field area other than the chrono area, may be ejected from the event with no refund.



Well, it looks like I paid the "at the door" 2009 price. As long as any extra green finds its way to the cause I am fine with that.

Childrens Hospital saved my sons life in 2004.
BPS, Knives, Missions, Updated site... all small beans.
Lets put some money in the pot people, Local money to a local cause!!

It will be semi ONLY. Trigger bounce will also not be allowed, so please set your triggers correctly. Your X7 is absolutely allowed, just keep it in semi and you won't have any issues. Also before anyone asks, RT's are allowed but are subject to the same ROF cap as everyone else.

Hello! I've only been to one game in Minnesota as I live in Lacrosse WI. Let me just say I was impressed by Splat Tag, and I'm assuming this event will be great as well! I just had some questions about the ROF cap.

I just bought a brand new HE Grip for my A-5 and I'm dying to test it, but under your rules I wouldn't be able to use anything but semi-auto in which case I would just save the cash on batteries and put the mechanical grip on. Here's what I'm wondering:

Why do you disallow modes such as full auto, ramping, 3 shot burst, ect? If the modes are capped at 12 BPS you would still keep people from being over shot all the same. I was just wondering what the difference was of walking a trigger 12 BPS vs holding a trigger down shooting 12 BPS. I'm not trying to fight at all and I ask in the utmost respect. I understand even if the answer is simply "because I said so". It's your field your rules.

Also, would you consider a separate full auto BPS cap? I know it would take a lot of trust and integrity on the players part to follow that rule but around these fields that doesn't seem to be an issue. Say a 10 BPS cap for full auto?

I really love my A-5, and I wanted to stick with it so that's why I bought the HE Grip, but at the same time I want the ability to sling paint with the rest of them. But according to these rules the HE Grip is pretty much banned except semi automatic.

I also have a few more questions regarding my other marker, a 2004 Angel Speed.

The 2004 Angel Speed has a different type of anti chop system. The marker senses the vibration of the paintball entering the chamber and the signature of your air system. There aren't eyes like most modern markers. When using the anti chop system the marker is automatically capped at 13 BPS. There is no way to change this. Now here's my question:

Is it illegal to shoot a marker over 12 BPS or is it illegal to have a marker that has the ability to shoot over 12 BPS? What I mean by this is is it okay to have a marker capped at 25 BPS even though I can only shoot 8 BPS? Or does it still have to be capped at 12 BPS even though I can only shoot 8 BPS?

I'm sorry for really getting into the technicality's of the firing rules but I actually have to. The Angel could be deemed illegal by this field depending on the rules, as could all of the modes on the HE Grip except semi auto. I just really don't want to break a rule and get kicked out of what's looking like such a great event, and for such a great cause.

Thanks!

[Stretch]

That's a complex question and you bring up some decent points so I'm afraid I may not be able give you a satisfactory answer. What the rules are supposed to do is make sure the game is safe and fun for everyone, full auto and ramping can be very intimidating for newer players. Yes I realize that you can walk a trigger at 12bps all day long but that is just a reality of the game. Unfortunately you can't completely eliminate overshooting no matter what you do, the semi only rule helps though.

As for the second part of your question, any electronic marker must be capped at 12bps regardless of how fast you shoot. I know it may sound somewhat unreasonable but I just don't feel comfortable telling someone that it's okay to break the rules. Even though it's just barely breaking the rules. I'm sure you understand. If you have anymore questions don't be afraid to ask. I'll answer them the best I can.

[AutomagSniper]

Alright so the Angel won't be allowed for this event? I would like to know how strict these rules are. I'm not going to lie, I absolutely suck at walking the trigger. I'm absolutely positive that a referee wouldn't even look twice at my ROF if they saw me shooting. But if it's against the rules, it's against the rules. I would also like to point out that response triggers provide a full auto ability, without the ability to cap the ROF at all and they're allowed. Examples:

Automag RT Shooting 23 BPS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2t2J6INpdY)

A-5 Shooting 15 BPS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqCmpMRhoss)

[Krutsie]

you mean you cant adjust your automag down to 12 balls a second?, most fields are going to a 12 ball per second cap. I have a responce trigger on my 98 and it rips,but I can set it at 12 balls a second. We have to remember that this is a event were alot of kids are going to be viewing this game for the first time. we don't want to scare them with an over firing issue. Just my 2 cents.
****C4C Resistance General****

[NickVanDick]

True dat.. I think ill be using my pump for it.

Im excited for this game and all. But i have a feeling im going to be sucking. First time at this feild so im going to have a disadvantage.

[AutomagSniper]

you mean you cant adjust your automag down to 12 balls a second?, most fields are going to a 12 ball per second cap. I have a responce trigger on my 98 and it rips,but I can set it at 12 balls a second. We have to remember that this is a event were alot of kids are going to be viewing this game for the first time. we don't want to scare them with an over firing issue. Just my 2 cents.
****C4C Resistance General****

How can you adjust it down to 12 BPS? I didn't know this was possible...I'm sure you know better than I though

Krutsie, here's my point. With the response trigger you pretty much have full auto at 12 BPS correct? It's the fact that it's capped at 12 that makes it safe. So why not do the same with full auto? You know what I mean? I have no intentions of going out there and laying waste to newer players. That wouldn't be fun for me at all. I play with honor and integrity. I'm not going for stress relief on the newbies. I'm going for the great cause, and hopefully a ton of fun!

[MondoMor]

It's quite a bit different than Splat Tag. Flatter, and since it's all pines you have a different type of cover.

[cutstep]

lay down in the pines and it a whole new game

[AutomagSniper]

It's quite a bit different than Splat Tag. Flatter, and since it's all pines you have a different type of cover.

Phew! That's a sigh of relief. I remember out at Splat Tag when we were using the GBG field I got shot out, ran all the way back to me reinsertion point which was open at the time, ran all the way back and boom got shot before I even saw the guy. I was panting and sweating like no other. It was fun though!

[Krutsie]

How can you adjust it down to 12 BPS? I didn't know this was possible...I'm sure you know better than I though

Krutsie, here's my point. With the response trigger you pretty much have full auto at 12 BPS correct? It's the fact that it's capped at 12 that makes it safe. So why not do the same with full auto? You know what I mean? I have no intentions of going out there and laying waste to newer players. That wouldn't be fun for me at all. I play with honor and integrity. I'm not going for stress relief on the newbies. I'm going for the great cause, and hopefully a ton of fun!

I know nothing of speedball guns, I can strip a 98 apart in my sleep tho.

[Stretch]

Alright so the Angel won't be allowed for this event? I would like to know how strict these rules are. I'm not going to lie, I absolutely suck at walking the trigger. I'm absolutely positive that a referee wouldn't even look twice at my ROF if they saw me shooting. But if it's against the rules, it's against the rules. I would also like to point out that response triggers provide a full auto ability, without the ability to cap the ROF at all and they're allowed.

I may be wrong but it's starting to seem that you want me to tell you that it's ok to break the rules. I simply cannot do that. Although the RT gives a full auto effect it actually goes through a complete trigger pull every time it fires, it's a technicality. I don't know about mags but Tippmanns can be adjusted and as I stated before, RT's are subject to the same rof cap as any other marker. So if you can't adjust your RT mag to 12bps it will not be allowed.

[AutomagSniper]

No no no that's not what I was asking at all. I understand, I'll just slap on the mechanical grip on my A-5 and suck it up! I can also put the Angel at 12 BPS but the anti chop system will have to be turned off. That shouldn't be too much of an issue as my Ricochet feeds 15 BPS. Thanks for the response! I'll see you there!

[Stretch]

I'm glad I could answer your questions. See ya at the game man.

[AutomagSniper]

When we pre register do we pick a side? Or when is that done? Do we have a choice?

[Bunker Busters]

When we pre register do we pick a side? Or when is that done? Do we have a choice?

you should have a choice, and you will want to pick "The Covenant" ;)

on a side note, how do you set a tippy to a 12 bps cap when using an RT?

[Stretch]

You will have the option to request the side you wish to play for on game day. This is done to keep the need to rebalance teams to a minimum.

[AutomagSniper]

you should have a choice, and you will want to pick "The Covenant" ;)

on a side note, how do you set a tippy to a 12 bps cap when using an RT? If I'm not mistaken you cant, So an RT tippy would be the same as any mech mag when you set them both up with "bounce/sweet spot" triggers. I'm not trying to blow holes in the rule or cause problems but would the mech mag also be excepted since it makes a full trigger cycle even though its shooting faster then the 12bps cap?

Covenant it is! But yea, that's what I was thinking. There's no way to cap a response trigger because they are random as to when / how good the sweetspot is.

Pardon me for speaking on Stretch's behalf but I think this is what he means as far as rules:

-Only 1 shot per trigger pull, absolutely no modes that add shots to a single pull (ramping, full auto, etc.)

-Don't be ridiculous, if you can cap your marker then it must be capped at 12 BPS, if you can't and your shooting over 12 BPS then the refs will stop and punish you accordingly.

That covers up any loopholes that are made.

Edit: Again I would like to apologize for making such a stink about the rules, I understand them and I'm done now. I hope I didn't cause any problems, I just wanted some clarification.

[Stretch]

You pretty much nailed it my friend. Except that any electros or RT's must be capped or they will not be allowed, period.

Andy, the way that you cap Tippmann RT's is by adjusting a screw on the side of the trigger frame. It's not very precise but it works.

[Stretch]

Edit: Again I would like to apologize for making such a stink about the rules, I understand them and I'm done now. I hope I didn't cause any problems, I just wanted some clarification.

Your not causing any problems at all man. I'm more than happy to answer any questions you or anyone else may have regarding the game. It's better to clarify now than on game day.

[AutomagSniper]

Your not causing any problems at all man. I'm more than happy to answer any questions you or anyone else may have regarding the game. It's better to clarify now than on game day.

Thanks a ton, I'll be hard pressed to get this game out of my head all week. :p

[Krutsie]

There is a little tightening crew where the air goes into the grip. tighten and loosen the screw to adjust air to responce trigger. that will adjust how much air goes in and how fast you shoot balls.

When people ask me what side to go on I just tell them eather side. I'm not recruiting for this game. I just want it fair and fun.
-C4C Resistance General-

[Sencor]

Are you coming to C4C Sencor?

Wow! It's been a while i guess! Sorry Krustie... yes i think i am!

[Stretch]

Only five days and twenty-two hours till game time!

[Bunker Busters]

There is a little tightening crew where the air goes into the grip. tighten and loosen the screw to adjust air to responce trigger. that will adjust how much air goes in and how fast you shoot balls.


gotcha, thanks.

whats the rule on "bounce/sweet spot" trigger setups? I know they are banned in most tourneys and I have no intentions of bouncing the T2:p but I just thought I would ask to keep you busy stretch:D

[AutomagSniper]

Only five days and twenty-two hours till game time!

Are you the owner of MN Paintball Pro?

[Stretch]

gotcha, thanks.

whats the rule on "bounce/sweet spot" trigger setups? I know they are banned in most tourneys and I have no intentions of bouncing the T2:p but I just thought I would ask to keep you busy stretch:D
Ugh, your killin me here Andy. Just playin. If you mean switch bounce on electronic guns it is not allowed. It's essentially the same as full auto. Everyone please set your triggers correctly. If that's not what you meant you'll have to explain a little better.
Are you the owner of MN Paintball Pro?
No, I am not the owner of MN Pro. That would be Matt Ames. The C4C event is produced by team Dead Squad. Matt hands over his field and we make the rules and run the game. Similar to the Hunt. I'm just the Dead Squad guy in charge of promoting the game and answering questions for people.

[wicker77]

So what will signal a base being taken? A flag or something? or does everyone inside just have to be taken out?

[Stretch]

There will be a flag at each base to signal who controls that base. After a base has been captured the defenders cannot retake it. The defenders can reoccupy it but it will still be considered captured.

[AKA]

Well I know one thing, My Guns are leagal so no ?'s there.:p

The Game sounds fun to me and am looking forward to a good 'ol day of Attack and Deffend. It'll remind me of my days playing hours and hours of Delta Force II, on-line Attack and Deffend Team Play.:D

See you all there,/AKA

[AutomagSniper]

Ugh, your killin me here Andy. Just playin. If you mean switch bounce on electronic guns it is not allowed. It's essentially the same as full auto. Everyone please set your triggers correctly. If that's not what you meant you'll have to explain a little better.

No, I am not the owner of MN Pro. That would be Matt Ames. The C4C event is produced by team Dead Squad. Matt hands over his field and we make the rules and run the game. Similar to the Hunt. I'm just the Dead Squad guy in charge of promoting the game and answering questions for people.


Yea, my dad works with a guy that says he's one of Matt's best friends. I was just wondering if that was you. Guess not!

[AutomagSniper]

Hey guys, my one friend that was coming just cancelled on me...I'm going to be driving 2 and a half hours to get there, is there any team / group that would be willing to let me roll with them? It's always more fun when your in good company and I don't really want to go up there and just be a loner in the staging area and such. Lol. :)

[Stretch]

Everyone is very friendly at these games, you should have no problem whatsoever finding guys to play with. If you tell me what you'll be sporting there I'll be sure to come introduce myself and BS with ya for a bit.

[AutomagSniper]

Okay, sounds cool. I'll be rocking woodland BDUs with a NXE digi camo pack and the A-5 in my signature.

[Bunker Busters]

look for the guy that look like this, and you can roll with us. I'll be the one with the grey/red T2

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/andyjs84/actT2.jpg

[Red]

look for the guys that look like this, and you can roll with us. I'll be the one with the grey/red T2

If your going to be using the T2 remember not to shoot them in the head. The don't like the long walks back when the medic can't heal them, as you learned at the Hunt.

[AutomagSniper]

Bunker Busters, I'll definitely make sure I find you guys. Can't turn down a T2 owner. :cool:

[Krutsie]

They're on the Covanant side...

[Bunker Busters]

If your going to be using the T2 remember not to shoot them in the head. The don't like the long walks back when the medic can't heal them, as you learned at the Hunt.

yeah, I get yelled at for shooting them all in the head but what else did they think I was gonna shoot at when all they would do was peek around the trees and bunkers :scared0012:

[Oracle]

man that was so funny! I can't believe they were complaining about that, big babies baby:)

[Edgar]

Head shot is a dead shot,cant be healed by medic.Thats the only way to make sure thay dont shoot back for awhile:scared0012:

thats how we used to take out terminators,but that was in our ruthless day's,thats frowned on now a day's

[FIREFLY]

yeah, I get yelled at for shooting them all in the head but what else did they think I was gonna shoot at when all they would do was peek around the trees and bunkers :scared0012:

The reason we spend so much on masks is to protect our heads, neck protectors work, hats etc.. Jt even makes a full helmet Flex8, I see nothing wrong with shooting somebodys mug or melon if it's sticking up.
If they don't have proper protection or are too sensitive then maybe they should switch to tap dance or something....Paintball isn't for babies....

[Bunker Busters]

well, I guess I will get us focus:)

will paint prices be the same as open game and will there be multiple paint grade options?

[AutomagSniper]

I just saw the $40 a case on the site. Which is INSANELY awesome by the way. You can't get paint that cheap anymore...

[Stretch]

Paint will be discounted for the event and yes there will be multiple options. Also for anyone who might not know MN Pro is field paint only, please tell your friends.

Paint prices.
Heat $40/Case
RPS Premium $45/Case

[AutomagSniper]

"WOW, NOW THAT'S A GREAT PRICE" $45 Premiums. Man, I'm getting excited for this! dribble:)

[MildMunchBrando]

thats how we used to take out terminators,but that was in our ruthless day's,thats frowned on now a day's

I remember those days;)...... well sorta lol

[Stretch]

Only two days left and the weather looks perfect!

[Drachen]

How can you adjust it down to 12 BPS? I didn't know this was possible...I'm sure you know better than I though


Are you talking about the Automag RT? The only way you can turn down the ROF on those, is lower your output pressure on your tank.


I also have a question about the caps. Say I can't cap my marker down below 14 bps, but my hopper will only feed around 10-12...though not consistantly (non-force feed Revvy), would I still be able to use that gun, with that hopper?

[Stretch]

As long as the marker is unable to shoot over twelve bps I don't see why it would be a problem.

[AutomagSniper]

As long as the marker is unable to shoot over twelve bps I don't see why it would be a problem.

Ah, I forgot all about that! That's how the SPPL regulates rates of fire. It's genius and way harder to cheat than when you cap your marker. They don't have special modes in hoppers. I'll be rocking a gravity feed so I can use my Angel...Or maybe my older Ricochet!

[Stretch]

The field setup is almost complete. The open field that had the hay bails last year has been turned into a pretty wild layout. A sort of combination of hyperball and airball. Possibly the first and last time anyone will see anything like it.

[Drednaught X]

That really makes me excited, i remember last fall that it was boring as hell in that part. Cant wait to see it.

[Stretch]

Here's a rough map, sorry, there will be a better one but this is all we have for the moment.
http://i43.tinypic.com/28qsoj9.jpg

[MildMunchBrando]

Joels got a better one... Im sure he can put it up here soon

Stretch can you do me a big favor and send me the picture from the Challenge event on facebook? The one that looks old with the trees on it? I can't afford that much paint so I plan on taking pictures again and want to use that as my photo album cover.
mayhemgoose@gmail.com

[Krutsie]

Looks like they changed the map,,grrrrr

Joels got a better one... Im sure he can put it up here soon

Stretch can you do me a big favor and send me the picture from the Challenge event on facebook? The one that looks old with the trees on it? I can't afford that much paint so I plan on taking pictures again and want to use that as my photo album cover.
mayhemgoose@gmail.com

I'll give you paint .darn it.

[Stretch]

Brandon, do you mean this one?
http://i39.tinypic.com/11bopwm.jpg

[Ravenwood]

will there be an official map posted by Saturday night? I would really like to print and laminate a couple.

[Stretch]

I'm really sorry about not having a good map to post up yet. We have an outside source doing the map, now we're regretting it. I'm doing everything I can to have it up for you guys tomorrow.

[MildMunchBrando]

Brandon, do you mean this one?
http://i39.tinypic.com/11bopwm.jpg

Yeah thats the one. I would like the original file though.... Its kinda small...

[wicker77]

Question: When a stage is over, and the mortar sounds, is it going to just be a free-for-all getting to the next stage? or will there be a quick respite so defenders can get back to the bases on the next stage? I can see it being quite chaotic if its a free-for-all and the possibility of attackers just camping the stage line waiting to run to a base ahead of most of the defenders...

[MN Pro Paintball]

Challenge for Children's Scenario Big Game - TOMORROW!
We've got 200 pre-registered players and more keep signing up all day.
$35 tix on sale at MN Pro Paintball retail store until 8pm TONIGHT.
Call 952.892.1540 to register.
OR register SUNDAY morning at the park.
T-shirts for the first 300 players to sign up.
Raffle prizes from dozens of manufacturers - including Tippman TM-15!

The weather's gonna be great tomorrow. We can't wait to see you out here!

http://www.mnpropaintball.com

[AutomagSniper]

Man I'm excited. MN Paintball Pro, are you the owner of said field? My dad has a buddy that just started working with him at Volk Field (Air Force) base and he said he was good friends with (I'm not sure if the name's right) Matt Ames or someone that owns MN Paintball Pro....I was just wondering if that stories bull stuff or what?

[Stretch]

Yeah thats the one. I would like the original file though.... Its kinda small...

I'll try to figure out who has the original and have them send it to you.
Question: When a stage is over, and the mortar sounds, is it going to just be a free-for-all getting to the next stage? or will there be a quick respite so defenders can get back to the bases on the next stage? I can see it being quite chaotic if its a free-for-all and the possibility of attackers just camping the stage line waiting to run to a base ahead of most of the defenders...

Pretty much, the defenders can be in the next stage waiting in their bases for the attackers though.

[Krutsie]

I'm really sorry about not having a good map to post up yet. We have an outside source doing the map, now we're regretting it. I'm doing everything I can to have it up for you guys tomorrow.

So is the map you sent the Generals a week ago null and void. the only diference i see in the new map and our are a few of the bases in stage 2 and 3 are moved . nothing a marker cant fix. I'm sticking with the maps i got a week ago.

[Stretch]

I didn't send out any maps so I'm not certain what map you have.

[Krutsie]

I didn't send out any maps so I'm not certain what map you have.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg296/woodlandsecurity/c4cmap3.jpg

This is what I have. I made base changes as seen on the picture you posted.

[Stretch]

That one would be correct then if you changed the base locations to where they are on the map I posted. I guess the map that you got was from Mike. We moved some of the bases because of standing water from all the rain.

[Bunker Busters]

here is a question for ya, If both teams were to run trough all 3 stages in say an hour and a half each therefore the game would be completed in 3 hours would the scenario be done for the day?:(
I'm sure you just love all my questions stretch:D

[Stretch]

I truly hate you.:D I was hoping nobody would think about that. We're hoping that the teams will be even enough to prevent that from happening. If not there will be a plan B.

[Bunker Busters]

ha ha just keepin ya on your toes, you guys do a great job with this event and I have now doubt what ever happens it will be a blast!!!

[Stretch]

Good stuff. Thanks for the kind words my friend, see ya in the morning.

[Foster]

Let's not sweat the details tongue:)
1) raise $ for kids
2) shoot each other
3) see # 2

[Stretch]

Let's not sweat the details tongue:)
1) raise $ for kids
2) shoot each other
3) see # 2

I like the way you think.

The weather looks perfect for tomorrow, see everyone in the morning!

[NickVanDick]

Eh.. Nick Signing off... Gettin up at 5 tomorrow. See everyone tomorrow.

[Drednaught X]

yep... bed time now, cya all tomorrow

[MondoMor]

Sorry to say I can't make this due to an emergency.

[Krutsie]

It's 1:30 am and I'm still up.lol

[Saint]

Have fun out there today brothers

[AutomagSniper]

Paid for the game, but didn't get a chance to make it out there. Had to help my dad with chores and it was a 2 and a half hour drive. :(